Episode #31 Transcript
4 Tips for Making Friction-Free Joint Decisions (Happy Birthday Kenny!)
INTRO: This is the Decision Masters Podcast. I'm Kirsten Parker, the Decision Coach for Overthinkers. When you feel good about your decisions, life feels good. You get to be present in your days and excited about where you're going. I'm gonna help you build your decision mastery. So it's easy to know what you want, navigate uncertainty and handle any feelings that happen. Whether you're in the middle of some overthinking angst right now or you simply love feeling in charge of your choices, you're in the right place. Clear confident, decisions are right around the corner. Let's get into it.
KIRSTEN: Hello! This is a SPECIAL special episode because itâs coming out the week of Kennyâs FORTIETH BirthdayâŠI just love imagining this podcast being ten years old and having this episode as a milestone marker - I think the Decision Masters Podcast just turned 6 months old LAST WEEK (whaaat?), and itâs just fun to think about someday heâll be turning FIFTY, whatâs THAT episode gonna be about??
And just as a little insider information for how weâre celebrating - itâs a doozy. If youâre listening real-time, and if all our plans which are really guesses turn out how we want, right? (uncertainty is everywhere, we plan on surprises, donât forget!), we are currently in a city called Modena, in the Emilia-Romagna region of Italy. Kennyâs birthday was a couple days ago, and our plan is to eat the famous Michelin Star Chef Massimo Baturaâs food for the actual birthday dinner because weâre staying at the hotel he runs with this wife! I CANNOT. I mean we donât have to spend the entire episode talking about what weâre gonna eat but - we could. And frankly, I wouldnât be sorry about it.
But planning this whole trip was a fascinating opportunity for Kirsten the Decision Scientist to observe: Oo, what happens when two people with opposite Decision Styles get together and try to make a buncha decisions.
And I know Iâm not the only person on the planet married to (or flat out making decisions with) someone who doesnât think exactly like they do ;) so today Iâm going to share the 4 things that stand out to Kenny and I, when it comes to making this work.
I actually asked him âWhy do you think weâre able to make decisions even though weâre basically opposites there?â so he got to weigh in!Â
Because the truth is, we havenât always been able to - at least not easily. For a while, I was just frustrated at how he made decisions âincorrectlyâ & âworse than meâ (so judgey, I know). But Iâm being honest! And I want you to be honest too - if thereâs friction in your joint decision making, just check: How much of it is coming from you outright assuming the way this person operates is wrong?Â
I had to correct that misunderstanding for myself - that there wasnât a baseline better way to do things - and that freed me up from at least 50% of that friction.
So YAY - do that - plant that seed and take it with you into your next conversation about the vacation youâre planning, or plans for the house, or whether or not to say yes to your kids asking if they can run a waffle truck this summer. (YES that is a real decision faced by one of my real, amazing clients!! That was an easy decision for them though - obviously they said yes!)
Once you move through that initial hurdle thatâs so normal - the friction born of humans being different - you can approach a decision as if youâre on the same team. EVEN if you have different views, want different things, and wanna go about making this decision in totally different ways.
Kenny is a Researcher-Stretcher.Â
Thatâs not an official term, but at some point Iâm going to update the quiz on my website so you can find out what your Decision Archetype is and how to use it to your advantage, not get bogged down by common pitfalls. So - keep an eye out - itâll be at kirstenparker.com/quiz, it may be there now! Otherwise you can take the Momentum Quiz which is also so fun.
But thereâs SOME kind of Decision Archetype like Kenny. Someone who likes knowing alllll the options. Who likes taking his time - doesnât mind stretching a decision out. Would rather know they picked the best thing, no matter how much time/work it took. And because this is his preference, it means sometimes a decision doesnât get made at all - or gets made later - and heâs up for that because for him, thatâs better than missing out on the best thing.
I, on the other hand, am more of a Completer-Energy Saver.
I want decisions to be good ones, but I reeeally want them DONE. I donât like a lot of open decisions at one time - lots of undecided things âin process.â If there are, I donât wanna send a ton of energy to them, I want to consider them hibernating, not like, always draining bandwidth in the background. And because this is my preference, Iâm willing to choose something quickly even if that means sacrificing alternatives.
So itâs easy to see how joint decisions can get tricky right? From big stuff like house buying and Italy trips all the way down to âWhen are we gonna have dinner with so-n-soâ or âLetâs get boots.âÂ
BOOTS donât actually have to be a joint decision though, right? Kenny knows a lot more about winter sports and - interestingly - trendy fashion, than I do, so I actually asked him for help on this one!
But I see a lot of decision friction come from letting things turn into joint decisions that donât need to be. So I always encourage clients to be deliberate about this too - make sure you really WANT this to be a joint thing âcause if you donât, youâll save yourself a whole lotta bother.
SO letâs get to the 4 tips for making a decision with someone with a different Decision Style than you:
TIP #1: Decide what to appreciate
Like I said, my default was to assume my way was right and Kennyâs way was wrong and dumb. Iâm paintinâ with a broad brush there but, basically.Â
But every decision archetype has merits and this is a GREAT opportunity to decide what you want to appreciate about your OWN style of deciding AND your partnerâs.
It also helps to say this out loud. Decision-making can be like money and sex in our culture. Theyâre VERY important but we donât talk directly about them. But you can! Try naming what you appreciate about your partnerâs way of making decisions - I guarantee theyâll like it. Just donât expect them to immediately respond in kind unless they listen to this podcast too.
With us, I appreciate that Kennyâs style leads us to opportunities I never wouldâve found because Iâd never go that far down into the rabbit hole. And I also appreciate that my style eases the overall process of planning, because not every decision is open for indefinite angst.
TIP #2: Play to your strengths
Now that you know why BOTH of your decision styles are beneficial - capitalize on that. You can agree on whoâs handling which decision. You can also chunk up decisions!
When I worked as a Project Manager for a couple years at Kaiser Permanente in their Educational Theatre Department - which I bet you didnât know existed - they used a system called Belbin Team Roles. Iâll link it in the show notes, I found it to be an incredibly helpful system for understanding how you best work, especially within a team, and in relation to a bunch of other people who have their own tendencies.Â
And that system made it easy to chunk up projects, like âThis is the part where âPlantsâ get to brainstorm and not hold back on exploring options. That means the Completer-Finishers like me donât pressure them to hand in their final answers.
You can do the same thing for decisions.
Kennyâs happiest place is down a rabbit hole finding the best of the best restaurants for risotto vs sandwich spots vs hole-in-the-wall whatevers. And my happiest place is obviously making a color-coded itinerary that maximizes joy and efficiency based on train schedules and what time sunset isâŠetc. So we stayed in our lanes.Â
TIP #3: Name your core values for the decision
If you know me, you know I love me some core values. Theyâre such a useful decision filter because it just makes everything easier when you decide in advance what matters most?
And it can be immensely helpful to reduce friction if you name a core value or two for a big decision that youâre making together.Â
Iâve had clients joint-deciding things like âWhat are we doing for Holidaysâ and âLetâs green light the ADU in the backyardâ and itâs so helpful, before you get into the weeds of those multi-step decisions, to know whoâs valuing what.Â
And you can make âem up, donât overcomplicate this. If youâre building and ADU, your core values can be âDetailsâ or âQualityâ or âFrugalityâ or âComfortâ or âEaseâ!Â
For planning this trip, our values were Celebration, Spaciousness & Food.Â
TIP #4: Set parameters (at ANY point)
And this might be the most important one. Because like any âtipsâ or tools I offer, these are all nice ideas in theory, and theyâre usually harder in practice.Â
And I donât wanna lie to you and say âWe had a completely friction-free experience planning this trip and our lives are perfect and everythingâs made of daisies!â
We would find ourselves in lilâ moments of friction, like Iâd find out I didnât wanna be in a rabbit hole on something anymore, or heâd feel rushed to decide stuff.Â
So itâs important to remember the goal is never to be perfect, the end. But it is 1000% possible to minimize those friction moments, and set yourselves up to move through them so much more easily.
So if you can - set parameters in advance.
Talk about your decision strengths out loud.
Play to your strengths and chunk decisions up.
Use core values as guides & filters.
An example of this would be weâd agree âOk, youâre going down all the food and hotel rabbit holes - and also letâs make sure this thing gets booked today.â
But itâs never too late to set / reset / adjust parameters. Let this be an ongoing thing you do together. If you realize youâre frustrated because your partnerâs down a rabbit hole and you wanted the decision made yesterday, thatâs fine. Use that awareness to agree on a parameter NOW. If youâre in the middle of a month-long decision about your house or plans for the kidsâ summer or how to deal with someoneâs parents or what boots to buyâŠdoesnât matter!...You can set your core values for that decision now. Not too late. Itâll be helpful, I promise.Â
So there are your 4 tips, I really hope you find them valuable:
Decide what to appreciate
Play to your strengths
Name your core values for the decision
Set parameters (at ANY point)
And I would love to hear from you on this! How do you and your partner differ in your decision styles? What resonated from todayâs episode that youâre gonna try? Head to kirstenparker.com/podcast and click the button at the top that says âTell me everything!âÂ
And since itâs the holidays I would be SO honored to receive the gift of your feedback - if youâd be so kind, go give us a rating & review on Apple Podcasts - it helps me out, in a surprisingly huge way, and I also just love hearing what you have to say!
Have an amazing week - and Happy Birthday Kenny!
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